CPMR Testimonials

See what manufacturers say about reps that have gone through the CPMR program. You can also see what CPMR Candidates think about the program. Read on to hear about our "Back On Campus" program called CPMR 401 for alumni to come back and refresh their memories. Last, but certainly not least, read about the benefits of CPMR study teams that become a sounding board for your firm.

CPMR is a program that I would recommend to anybody and everybody that wants to improve their business. The CPMR program gives you the opportunity to learn more about the rep business from other successful reps. The study teams are one of the most unique parts of this program. It is great to be a part of a study group and learn how other industries work and what other reps have tried, both successfully and unsuccessfully. Everyone is always looking to get better and what better way to learn then to rely on the experience of other reps. Also, the CPMR program teaches you how to run your business more efficiently. When you finish the program, you know more about your business than ever before. You will learn things about insurance, legal issues, marketing, technology, leadership, communication, profitability and the list goes on. Based on the CPMR program, I have been able to improve my business in so many different ways. For that reason, I would recommend the CPMR program to all reps. MAFSI will benefit greatly by having more reps that have gone through the CPMR program.
James Mathis  CPMR, CFSP - Equipment Preference Inc.

I enjoyed the sessions taught by Scott Lindberg. His quick Excel tutorial motivated me to finally learn, and then use, pivot tables. I have even set up spreadsheets for some of my customers. They save a lot of time by using them and it has added to our relationship. They even take my phone calls more readily.
Miles McSweeney, CPMR Candidate - Power Sales

I have to tell you CPMR was a fantastic experience, well run, great courses and instructors, as well as an accommodating staff. The venue was perfect! The whole experience top to bottom exceedingly surpassed my expectations!

I am already using some of my experiences from the courses and the Best Practices shared by others in the class and Study Group. I really am excited and look forward to next Year 201.

Thank you and all who helped make this a wonderful & unique Experience.
Kyle Brendefur, CSP, CPMR Candidate - Lesco, Inc

I really enjoyed CPMR and feel that it was extremely valuable to me as a regional sales manager.
Jim Moore, CPMR - Samson Corporation (2013)

My CPMR study team, the CPMR F.L.I.E.R.S., says Michael Pass's session on the 9 cell matrix was universally lauded as first class and extremely useful.
Rob Whitehead CPMR Candidate - Ewing-Foley 

I want to take some time to share with you my experience going through the Certified Professional Manufacturers Representative (CPMR) 3-year course.  It has been extremely valuable not just to TD Marketing, but to my manufacturers businesses as well. (see his full comment by clicking here)

Frank Doyle, CPMR - TD Marketing (2013)

I look forward to completing CPMR this year.  So far the experience has been great and I have used so much of what I have learned. Thanks again.   
Frank Doyle, CPMR 301 Candidate - TD Marketing (2012)

While there are many trade specific certification programs, CSP & CPMR have proven to be generalized enough as a cross-platform, non-trade specific sales training & business management resource, that I would recommend them to any manufacturer's rep; regardless of industry.  My thoughts on:

• CSP – 
  • An intricate but easy to understand definition of the sales cycle that can be utilized in an overlay fashion regardless of trade or industry.
  • A templete for territory and market development
  • Tools for time management as defined by ROTI (Return On Time Invested)
  • Tips on negotiation skills
• CPMR -
  • A comprehensive review of owning and/or managing a sales agency 
  • MRERF's website has the best description for what it is, click here
  • I would only add that the course is very intense, and that those attending CPMR should already have a firm grasp for what it takes to run their business.

I would recommend that you attend the CSP course – it's a great place to start. You wont regret it, no matter what your role is in your sales agency.
Will Maddux, CPMR, CSP - Maddux and Associates, Inc

I am using my CPMR education everyday in our rep firm! Thank you!
Chuck Waychoff, CPMR - Adhesive Brokers

I'm grateful for having to do case study - 9-cell I hated and now I love.
CPMR 301 Survey Comment 2012

Great class this year. I have already put into action some things I learned from the presentations [May 2012]. I look forward to CPMR 301 in 2013.  
Frank Doyle, CPMR Candidate - TD Marketing

In addition to the talented presenters, I want to congratulate you and the team on the logistical support of the class. The team's organizational skills helped make the week's activities a success.
Michael Pennington, CPMR Candidate - Ryall Group (2012)

Excellent job in organizing the new venue this year. I liked being in a University setting because we had close proximity to the meeting rooms and lunch! Made the week easy...but I suppose I could have used more exercise after those delicious lunches!
David Walker, CPMR Candidate - Encore Sales and Marketing (2012)

I passed the “LC” (Lighting Certified) exam. I submitted the online form for the continuing education covering the 20 hours of education I took at Philips’ headquarters to prepare for this four hour exam. 

I can now list the letters “LC” behind my name, too. The CPMR training I received was a factor in motivating me to get this certification. I have come to realize the importance of ongoing education in our business. 

I would encourage anyone in sales to develop a continuing education program and follow it as it relates to their business.
Bob Trate - CPMR, LC - VP End User Sales - Biben Sales Corporation

Tony and I feel very strongly that we represent top quality manufacturers, and they should expect top quality representation. The MRERF programs offer us the opportunity to have our people trained and carry the professional designation of CSP or CPMR.
Larry Benner, CPMR - Rouzer Sales Company, Inc.

I recommend CPMR to my rep colleagues in Hawaii, it was an experience that was worth the investment. Aloha. 
Dex Nagaji, CPMR - Crown Sales, Honolulu

I believe strongly in CPMR and CSP. And I support both programs as there is no other training for manufacturers representatives. I run my company on the principles I learned in CPMR. All my employees need to understand my business as CPMR teaches it, so they all attend.
Ashwin Kalia, CPMR - Chaparral Technologies

After the class, most of us came to the realization that learning (professional development) is fun and we don’t know as much as we thought we did prior to the classes. We all agreed that we need to take the time to open our minds to learn and reflect on experiences to become more profitable. We also realize the need to sharpen ourselves as manufacturer’s reps so that we can enrich our manufacturer relationships. The MRERF CPMR class has started us off in that direction.
David Tonsberg, CPMR Candidate - Security Reps (2011)

CPMR 101 was a very positive experience. Our assigned study team has scheduled quarterly conference calls to discuss practices learned at CPMR as well as swap ideas. I am looking forward to progressing with CPMR over the next two years as well as growing the relationships with my study team. 
Joshua W. Gorman, CPMR Candidate - Gorman Company (2011)

I really enjoyed my CPMR experience. My study team is great! We studied together during the course and compared notes on our individual businesses regarding challenges, what works well, what doesn't etc.  We have scheduled quarterly webinar's to keep ourselves on track with our goals we each set during CPMR. I am looking forward to next year!
Mike Hodges, CPMR Candidate – Adanac Sales (2011)

I loved my CPMR experience and work on my CPMR to do list daily. Our study team has scheduled conference calls…great group of guys…we call ourselves the “Future Five”.
Mark Petro, CPMR Candidate - R&R Marketing Consultants Inc (2011)

The CPMR Class was quite helpful. I am really glad I attended and I look forward to the next phase.
Glen Cogswell, CPMR Candidate – Red Mountain Sales (2011)

I just wanted to send you a quick “thank you” and “well done” with CPMR 201. I've been to many conferences and there usually is a glitch in the system somewhere along the line. Not last week! Everything went smoothly and efficiently. We were very well taken care of and, of course, the sessions were outstanding. I’m already looking forward to next year and earning my certification!
Joe Anderson, CPMR Candidate - Woolsey Associates (2011)

The information was timely in a number of ways as our business is growing.  We are trying to do so with better decisions and profitability in mind, more so than before.  I am looking forward to the next session since the first was a good eye opener to the resources available or,  where to go to find them.
John Mackenroth, CPMR Candidate - Industrial Component Sales, Inc. (2011)

I got my CPMR in January 2009.  I think it is well worth both the time and monetary investment.
Larry Weber, CPMR - The Sales Group (2010)

I have decided it is time to retire. My CPMR training was wonderful and I have been proud to display the CPMR after my name and recommend it to anyone where the situation is appropriate.  Thanks for all of the support over the years. 
Ralph D. Logerwell, CPMR (retired) - WoodH2O (2010)

CPMR really is an eye opening experience, especially to those that may be newer to their industry.  They can soak it up better than those that have been around for a long time and are set in their ways.  Having said that, I know that there have been reps that have been around for a long time that have got a lot out of this program.

My absolute favorite part of the study team was learning about how reps in other industries handle the same problems that I have to handle being in PTRA or MANA.  The solutions for them are different thanf my thinking and it has helped me to negotiate new contracts and additions that I normally would not have thought of. This has also helped me to evaluate some of my lines to see if it was actually worth still representing them.  
Adam Cooler, CPMR - J.W. Cooler Company (2010)

I want to thank the entire organization of MRERF, the distinguished professors, and hosts at ASU for my wonderful three years of attending CPMR classes.  I speak for many of us at Elkay in saying that we looked forward to this every year and thoroughly enjoyed our time and classes with you all.  Most importantly, I am a better business person because of this experience,  particularly in the areas of strategic development and financial analysis.
Mike Purcell, CPMR - Elkay (2010)

I am very honored to be one of only 37 people with the double designation.
Scott Catanzarite, CPMR, CSP - Group 4 Retail Equipment (2010)

What a great class.  This year’s curriculum brought a lot of things together for me and gave me more than a few things to take back here and try and implement.
Brian Rodeno, CPMR - Marshall-Rodeno (2010)

The Friday I returned from CPMR, my boss announced that we are investigating a new line. I told him CPMR gave me a new formula that can help determine if a line is a good match for us, and he agreed to let me participate in the decision making process. I am already gathering critical information so I can peform a 9 cell study. Thanks for the tools that I can put right to work!
Rob Ellis, CPMR Candidate - Rettig Engineering (2010)

I can't tell you how much fun and how stimulating the past three years have been.  CPMR is a terrific investment, filled with talented people and exceptionally well organized.  It is bittersweet to graduate.  I wanted to thank you and the entire staff for all of your hard work and planning that you devote to the program.  Great job! 
Peter Gould, CPMR - The Gould Company (2010)

Thank you so much for all the hard work the MRERF team puts into this program. It is almost overwhelming the information and ideas that I came back with this year. I definitely got some tools this year that I can use to get my company to the professional level that I am looking for. I just need to remember to “slow down to speed up”.
Jim Modjeski, CPMR CSP - Titan Marketing Solutions (2010)

Thank you for a  very productive and professional week with CPMR!
Tom Campbell, CPMR - Campbell Equipment Company (2010)

I loved the CPMR classes. They were very informative and insightful. 
Mike Ficker, CPMR - Ewing Foley (2009)

Extremely valuable and exceeded my expectations. Somehow we need to get more manufacturers supporting this program. 
Lori Mele, CPMR - PLM and Associates LLC (2009) 

I anticipated lofty academic theories with little practical application. In fact, I was very pleasantly surprised to find the course full of down-to-earth, practical knowledge that our firm can put to use immediately. Kudos to CPMR!
Brian Soderholm, CPMR - Solderholm & Associates (2009)

Both owners of Applied Motion Solutions are CPMR graduates. One of our goals was to have our sales staff CSP Certified in 2009, completely paid for by our firm.

One of our salespeople attended the three day session in Philly and we see a noticeable change. More confident, communicating better both internally and externally, and new business opportunities are solid. Many of our sales take years to close based on the upfront engineering but we know this investment will pay dividends very soon.

We met our goal of having our whole firm will be CPMR or CSP certified in October! I would be happy to be contacted if anyone has questions regarding the benefits of either CPMR or CSP. Thanks for making our industry more professional! 
Peter Oppici, CPMR - Applied Motion Solutions (2009)

CPMR has provided me a more global understanding of the Rep business.  I am able to focus on the important aspects of our business and make more informed decisions.  Adding the CSP designation brought structure to what we do as a Rep firm.  I have 8 others in the company that are CSP designees and I am also able to help them identify solutions utilizing their education.  Dual certification in today’s business environment is of tremendous value.
Kevin Adams, CPMR, CSP - Shaffer & Nelson  (2008)

The training was outstanding.  I really enjoyed the course.
Brent Romaneschi, CPMR - Encore Sales & Marketing (2009)

It is critical that we spread the word about the important work we are all doing to separate what we bring to the table, from the non-CPMR’s in the industry.
Scott C. Shannon, CPMR - SOURCE ONE SALES, CORP. (2009)

I believe the CPMR program will enhance our firm and help us to focus on becoming more strategic.  It will be interesting to see the differences and results 3 years from now.  Look forward to 201. 
Morris "Bull" Kay, CPMR - Coleman-Russell & Associates (2009)

CPMR was definitely worthwhile for me, but only if I take what I have learned and apply to my business. My only regret is that I did not get going with your program earlier in my career. I do plan on having both of my junior business partners attend.
Joe Quinn, CPMR – Grissinger Johnson Sales (2009)

For me, CPMR was a great experience.  I picked up a lot of new ideas that I have already been able to bring back and implement here at Wallace. It is helpful having people who understand the rep business to share ideas and best practices with. 

The only suggestion I have is to better divide the women among the study teams.  I like my team and we all get along well, but as you know it is nice to have another woman’s perspective on issues we are facing each day.  The women have a lot to offer in the area of advice and ideas and I feel it would be beneficial to disperse that knowledge among the whole class. All too often as we attend industry events we are one of a handful of women in attendance (from my experience, many times I am the only one). 

Thanks again for all you did to make CPMR a good experience and I look forward to next year!
Holly Myers, CPMR - Wallace Electronic Sales (2009)

I thought the course was very valuable to my business. 
Todd Anderson, CPMR CFSP II - North Star Agency (2009) 

The information that I have learned was put to immediate use at all levels of my company, and has had a direct impact on the continued growth of our company, and the principals we represent. 

I HIGHLY recommend that anyone that is looking to take their skills to the highest level possible should invest in this program not only for themselves, but for their long term future in this profession.

TRULY a rewarding experience, and very much appreciated!     
Scott C. Shannon, CPMR - Source One Sales, Corp (2008)

I was so very pleased with the course overall.  For me it was like a bear finding a honey tree. The information was very timely…the portion on legal was over the top for me…the information on generational issues was very good in opening my eyes to what is going on in the business world…It was just very good to be immersed in 4 days of study and reflective thought.  The problem I am dealing with now is devoting enough time to attack the issues I want to attack I appreciate the support we get from your organization. 
Dick Bailey, CPMR CSP - Conetic Resources (2008)

One of the first things that I learned about being successful is that the best thing that you can do to grow as a professional is continuing your education.

I was most impressed by the conversations I had with the attendees in the advanced levels of the CPMR Program and how much it has benefited them since they began the course. They were there to learn and not just to get through the course and receive their certificate.

It has been very rewarding for me and I look forward to using the concepts and material I learned daily to grow as a professional.

I have, and would, highly recommend this course to anyone who is looking to further improve and educate themselves professionally. 
Scott Catanzarite, CPMR CSP - Group 4 Retail Equipment (2008)

What I like best about the CPMR program is the relationships that I have developed with the members of my study team.  We are all from completely different industries, yet we share the same issues and challenges.  I have learned how reps in other industries have adapted to the cold reality of shrinking commissions and the move to a direct sales force.   I have learned how Reps in other industries have reinvented themselves as outsourced marketing firms, often charging for a multitude of services rather than just receive commissions for writing orders.  A dynamic environment and the CPMR program provides the opportunity to transform the way I view my business.  In a word, what I have gained from my participation in the CPMR program is, CONFIDENCE in my ability to find creative ways to adapt to a changing business environment.  I love the gift industry and I love that it is constantly changing.  
John Park, CPMR - Park Avenue Agents (2008)

I have to tell you, whenever I go to seminars I always try to bring back at least one thing to implement in my live at work or home.  Well, I have to say, your program has literally given me a plethora of ideas that I will need to apply over the course of the next year simply because there is just too much.  You have all really hit a home run with this program as far as I am concerned.  Congratulations!! 
Mike Cevetillo, CPMR - The Kirschner Group (2007)

As a lifelong learner, I having taken many courses during my business career and can honestly say that the CPMR program administered by The Institute for Professional Advancement was by far one of the most professional and best run programs I have ever experienced. This study program has enriched both my business and personal life

It is very obvious that a great deal of thought has been given to each and every aspect and the attention to detail is the key for success.  The staff was extremely helpful in providing their time and resources to each and every participant that attended and worked to create an environment where learning and enjoyment was the main purpose. 
Bob Johnson, CPMR - The Growth Partnership (2007)

I AM NOT A JOINER TYPE OF PERSON. When I heard I would be involved in a “Study Team” I was not particularly thrilled with the idea. By the end of the first day, it became one of the key aspects of the CPMR class that I looked forward to the most about being there every year.

I am a HUGE CPMR fan, and I am more than happy to help with the class at any time!
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Scott C. Shannon, CPMR - Source One Sales 

My CPMR study team has allowed me to form close friendships with individuals outside my industry that I can openly discuss issues being faced within our business.  These individuals are more than business confidants but dear friends.  Over the years we have shared not only our business experiences but personal endeavors as well.  Small Teams allow for the continuation of CPMR at all levels outside the classroom. Our graduating class saw many teams form close bonds and we hope future graduating classes will do the same. 
Cathleen Hughes, CPMR, CSP - R. J. Hughes Company

During CPMR class weeks we got together every lunch and dinner to study and compare our industries.  Their input was invaluable.  During the years we have helped one another with software suggestions, commission negotiation ideas, personnel issues, etc.  They helped me gain confidence as I took on more administrative responsibilities in my firm.
Karey Clements, CPMR - Forbes Hever & Wallace, Inc

I highly recommend getting involved with your study team. Our team stayed together all 3 years helping each other through the test material and daily homework questions. We meet each morning to review homework, and got to know each other very well. When the 3rd year came and we were presented with the final project we felt comfortable with each other and that made our task very easy to accomplish. The support we have for each other continues after CPMR as we help ach other with issues that arise in "the real world".
Frank Despain, CPMR - Ewing Foley

Joining a up with a few fellow reps in a “study team” is a good way to get to know them well.   Members of your study team are some of the stronger bonds you make during your 3 years of CPMR.  You help others through class questions and the end of week test, and they help you.  You get to ask the smartest ones what they do, and listen and learn.   
Ed O'Connor, CPMR - Simulcast Solutions

I found my CPMR study team to be equally beneficial to the instruction itself (with all due respect to the outstanding instructors). Working each evening with our team and talking about our real world experience reinforced what was presented by our instructors.  We would then go for dinner after our study session to unwind a bit. I keep in touch with many from our team.  It is not uncommon to run certain situations past each other as we encounter various challenges/opportunities with our businesses.

I highly recommend  to work with your study team while attending CPMR.
Joe Quinn, CPMR - Grissinger Johnson Sales

The full, candid exchange of ideas with my study team is what really turned the CPMR experience into a dynamic, rewarding and profitable learning experience. 
Charlie Parham, CPMR - Pepco Sales

The study teams were a lot of fun as well as being meaningful. It was great to share experiences and hear other people’s challenges and successes.  For all the differences, in geography, lines, or markets it was amazing what we all had in common.  The collaboration in creating the presentations, doing the case studies and doing the homework was an important exercise in cooperation.  Additionally, the relationships built over 3 years create memories for a lifetime. It was really great working in the study teams.
Tom Banghart, CPMR - Tech Electric


The team we put together got more out of each class and went into the final exams with much more confidence. But the biggest plus was the networking and life long friendships developed.
Jeff Vadnais, CPMR - Sedlock Companies

The benefits of my study team were many:
o   Got to hear problems reps were having in other industries than mine
o   Learned new and different solutions to existing problems in my business
o   Got different perspectives of instructor’s lecture
o   Gave me a chance to compare notes for accuracy
o   Gave me the opportunity to expand on my own study notes from the input of the study team members
o   Forced me to do my study at a set time rather than put it off. 
John Van Vessem, CPMR - Geo. E. Honn Company, Inc

I can not imagine doing the work for CPMR alone.  Aside from the fact that a lot of the exercise requires “study as a team”, doing it with a team is what makes it enjoyable (no offense to any of the instructors).  
Joel Golmont, CPMR - Smith & Stevenson Co

CPMR helps develop relationships that continue beyond CPMR and the ability to share “Best Practices”, regardless of your industry.
Tom Cotter, CPMR - Riffle & Associates

Benefits of my CPMR study team: Shared knowledge/intelligence, recognition of common problems across industries, business friendships beyond CPMR time, camaraderie, personal friendships, clarity of instruction, test study is much easier, deeper well of knowledge (someone has been there, done that already).
Carl Mathis, CPMR - Power Sales Company

The study teams are very important because of what you learn from reps in other territories, agencies and industries.  It gives you many different ways to look at the information being provided by the class.
Craig Reyenga, CPMR - Reyenga Enterprises

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1. One of the first benefits of a study team is the opportunity to meet other people, with shared professional interest’s and commitments to personal improvement.
2. Our team found that the interaction in the study team, was almost more of what we gained from CPMR, than the projects we worked on together. What I mean by this is, there are a lot of different view points on a particular subject. I found that by listening to each person’s perspective, I gained a real wealth of knowledge that I would never have gained had I been working on the same project alone.
3. It allows each person to work in a team, towards one goal. Our study team was filled with very fun energetic people that took it on as our team challenge to take everything that we did to the ultimate level. Not because we had to, but because we wanted to. The competitive juices were definitely flowing.  
4.  After a long day of classes, being able to have a group of people, with shared interest, to go out to dinner with, made the week a true pleasure.
5.  I firmly believe that not only do I use the skills that I learned through the CPMR program, but I use the many things I learned from my study team partners as well.


After it was all said and done, as a graduate of the course, I still stay in contact with my study partners. Although they are all across the country, we all have a connection, and when times are tough, or confusing, we know we can pick up the phone and get someone on the other end that understands where we are coming from.

In closing, I AM NOT A JOINER TYPE OF PERSON. When I heard I would be involved in a “Study Team” I was not particularly thrilled with the idea. By the end of the first day, it became one of the key aspects of the CPMR class that I looked forward to the most about being there every year.

I am a HUGE CPMR fan, and I am more than happy to help with the class at any time!
Scott C. Shannon, CPMR - Source One Sales
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Full comments from Frank Doyle, a recent candidate in CPMR 301

I want to take some time to share with you my experience going through the Certified Professional Manufacturers Representative (CPMR) 3-year course.  It has been extremely valuable not just to TD Marketing, but to your businesses as well. This is not just another 2-day sales class it is a certification process that takes place over a 3-year period. It has taught us how to be a better business person in sales NOT a better sales person in business. Big difference.  We also formed groups in year-1 that we stayed with throughout the three-years and will continue to stay together to help each other’s businesses and run ideas off. These individuals were from all different industries including electronics, plumbing, food, automotive, petroleum etc… I was personally amazed to learn that so many other industries use and rely on Manufacturer Representative firms like TD Marketing not just the Commercial Food Service Equipment and Supplies Industry.  

For the record I was not asked to send this email or even promote these certifications, but since I got so much from the course I felt it was important to share the experience with my Principals and Partners. I also want all of you to know the investment we are making to be better at what we do to help all of us make more money.  We were educated on subjects like Finance, Succession Planning, Buy, Sell, Merge, Leadership, Management, Social Media, Strategic Planning, Legal and much more. Orientation started Sunday night, you got with your group for dinner then class started Monday-Thursday 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. every day with a short break for lunch. This was a very serious, very professionally run program.  The final exam is always the final day, Friday, which you have to study for just about every night. Not everyone passes!

The last year that I just completed at the University of Texas we had a case study to present to a panel of CPMR Graduates and Professors.  It taught us about line profitability, time analysis, employees, 9-Cell Matrix, Delta, SWOT etc…  Probably one of the most challenging and educational experiences I have had since starting our rep business, TD Marketing.  We did not only have representative firms in our class we had manufacturers as well.  Some of the reasons the Principals attended CPMR was to understand the role of a rep firm as well as challenges, motivators and I’m sure much more.  It made perfectly good sense if you use reps to figure out how to better partner with them to benefit your business. If you ever get a chance to speak to a Manufacturer that has gone through this certification I am extremely confident they will tell you they highly recommend it for other manufacturers as well.

I attached information for you all.  You may be interested in the Manufacturer’s Best Practices (MBP) Working with Reps. Everyone from TD Marketing both inside and outside will all go through the Certified Sales Professional (CSP) certification I promise you that.  You can also go to www.MRERF.org for additional information. You will notice our new signature below. Yes, we are now on Facebook, Twitter and everything is linking to our website (under construction now because of CPMR).  We would like to make sure when our new website is launched that it links to all of your websites and your websites link to TD Marketing. I expect us to start to blog and comment to other industry related blogs.  Our website is going to be a tool to capture leads and email addresses, promote new products, market specials and educate all of our customers on technology. See you all at NAFEM in a couple of weeks.  Hope you get something from this.  We did! 

Frank Doyle, CPMR Candidate - TD Marketing